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  Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  hey simon, .

  the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

  a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

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  Not to be morbid, but any intelligent human being is aware of their mortality and should, in my opinion, make provision for the disposition of their material goods and intellectual property after they die.

  This site and the software it runs on are part of Simon's estate.

  A couple of years ago when our friend Richard Rawe died, I was shocked to learn that he never had prepared a will. If it wasn't for the fact that his widow Frances was generally in agreement with the wishes he expressed BUT NEVER PUT INTO A FORMAL WILL, Richard's gigantic library could have been taken to the dump.

  In addition to this oversight, Richard left no record of where certain financial resources that belonged to him were located, and so far these resources have NOT BEEN FOUND and so they do not exist as far as Richard's heirs are concerned.

  Bottom line: be prudent; accept your mortality and arrange for what happens the day after. Your heirs will thank you.
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  Another traveler from JWR

  by StarryNight9 in

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  hi everybody, i'm starrynight from jwr.

  that's it... .

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  ZAPPA-ESQUE beat me to it! Well done, Sir!

  Welcome StarryNight!
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  The best way for a witness to wake up, is to simply read the societies own older publications!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  once again the society is on a push to scare witnesses away from doing any research, or "stumbling" upon any "apostate" material (from workmates, neighbors, or online).

  however, the most enlightening, mind blowing and eye opening things are found simple by reading the early publications themselves!.

  read how ct russel, (the supposed channel god was using) had the most far fetched and laughable ideas, such as obtaining pivotal dates by measuring the pyramids of egypt!...

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  Here's a valuable resource:

  http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/oldlightreprints?searchTerms=&pageOffset=1

  Most titles are available in both hardcopy (printed) and e-book format.

  
  
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  Intro

  by Exjwme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can all call me jess, i guess you can say i'm a "refugee" from jwr.

  i'm going to try and keep this short for now, i'm in my early 20s, i was born in but never baptized, i've been mentally out for 7 years and fully out for about 5ish.

  despite never having been baptized my fading took quite a bit of time and work.

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  Nathan Natas

  O THANK YOU, Grreat Teacher! (Which of us has a mild ego problem?)
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  Intro

  by Exjwme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can all call me jess, i guess you can say i'm a "refugee" from jwr.

  i'm going to try and keep this short for now, i'm in my early 20s, i was born in but never baptized, i've been mentally out for 7 years and fully out for about 5ish.

  despite never having been baptized my fading took quite a bit of time and work.

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  ExJWME,

  You did say, " Please feel free to ask me anything!"

  Didn't you?

  Did you not mean it?
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  JWR Alumni

  by marlborobarbie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey y'all.

  i just wanted to officially make my debut on https://www.jehovahs-witness.com and introduce myself.

  i'm an old jwrer, and it looks like i'll be dropping in on here now for cult updates and friendly conversation.. a little about myself:.

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  Nathan Natas

  Hi Marlborobarbie and everyone else who did not start their own thread; here we have plenty of 1s and 0s to go around, so use as many as you like: Simon (through whom all things are made possible) will make more!

  Welcome to the board!

  I have a JehovahMom too! How many of those did they make?

  You said, "If you'd like me to explain anything in detail, feel free to ask. :)"

  Please explain EVERYTHING in detail, with extra potty-mouth, please.
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  Intro

  by Exjwme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you can all call me jess, i guess you can say i'm a "refugee" from jwr.

  i'm going to try and keep this short for now, i'm in my early 20s, i was born in but never baptized, i've been mentally out for 7 years and fully out for about 5ish.

  despite never having been baptized my fading took quite a bit of time and work.

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  Hi Jess,

  Welcome to the board!

  What are the optical properties of boron nitride?
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  Oh dear ,did I touch your belief system?

  by wozza in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just been thinking about things that happened when i was in the jws that made me realise that i was waking up .. bit of history first ,my mother brought me up as a mormon from the age of about 4 till about 12 ,saw alot of things that even puzzled me as a kid and knew the lds church could not be right (like pressuring my mother to pay the 10 percent tithe that she had accrued while dad was out of work for three months with no income}.. one bug that i had then was that they treated "negro" people differently,coul'dnt marry whites at the temple, hold the ministry etc the prophets back then taught this and changed some things later.. years later when i became a witness i sometimes would talk about this with other jws and point out that the prophets had changed their teachings and asked the question "so who got the teaching wrong , the prophets or god?

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  it was amazing to see their faces ,always seemed to be the same ,it was as though they realised that this could be the same situation in the the "truth" and did'nt want to think about it ,and really with all the changes in recent years ,this question should be asked bt jws today to test their belief system which is based on a group of men which changes all the time over the years and so does their teachings.. wish the internet and information had been around when i was becoming a jw i probably would have put it to good use and never become a jw ,but for those today ,use it well and your critical thinking and the road away from mens teaching will be swift.

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  Wozza,

  Yours has got to be THE BEST subject line of the year!

  "Oh dear ,did I touch your belief system?" Well done!
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  go fund me for help those who are shunned

  by poopie in

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  what do you think?.

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  Maybe Randy Watters' scam-artiste movie-maker friend can resurrect his grifter plan to open a charitable hostel/hotel/halfway-house for shipwrecked JWs? All he needs is a few hundred thousand dollars to get his balls rolling...

  "Better a stinking rat-hole you know than a stinking rat-hole you don't know," right?
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  go fund me for help those who are shunned

  by poopie in

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  what do you think?.

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  I don't understand the entire "crowdsourcing" phenomena at all because I understand economics.

  That being said, I have contributed to some crowdsourced projects at levels that took projects from "3 days away from death" to "fully funded".

  The results were generally disappointing. The "artists" often seemed to lack the drive to finish the project once it was fully funded, and when the projects were finished, they had an air of great ordinariness about them.

  If asked my advice, I'd say that cooking a hamburger over burning dollar bills will probably yield greater satisfaction than playing "angel" to nincompoops, but I had to learn this lesson the hard way.

  Read the projects listing on KickStarter if you enjoy laughing at stupid ideas.

  GoFundMe is "The Island of Lost Causes", IN MY OPINION.

  "I'm sad -- send me money -- I'm STILL sad -- send me more."